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Breeder's Description - 'Thai-tanic'
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A very compact Sativa variety, classic chocolate Thai smell and taste. The Skunk father dominates only in fast maturation, high yields and general vigour. A heavy crystal producer that is extremely potent with a trippy cerebral high.
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| Grower reports: 4 |
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Grower Report: John Lee Pedimore |
Thai-tanic from Flying Dutchmen |
| Overall Rating: |
7 |
Effect: |
All in the head |
| Potency: |
7 |
Stature: |
Very tall and lanky |
| Yield: |
8 |
Phenotype: |
Mixed, primarily Sativa |
| Ease: |
7 |
Indoor: |
75 to 80 days |
| Appearance: |
6 |
Outdoor: |
- |
| Odor Level: |
4 |
Odor: |
- |
| Taste Level: |
7 |
Taste: |
Spicy |
| Grower's Tils: |
Not Listed |
Sexes: |
Standard (M/F) |
| SI Rating: |
Not Listed |
Vintage: |
- |
This strain is a cross of TFD's Early Thai and Skunk #1. I germed 3 seeds and got 2 fems. They finished at about 80 days. I had to do some mid-flower topping on this one. It is an extremely stretchy Sativa, but it does seem to yield well. Didn't produce much smell during the grow. The smoke has a spicy/woody taste and the high is extremely heady.
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| Garden Information for this report |
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| Bloom Wattage Used: |
410w to 1000w |
| Average Plant Height: |
48 |
| Average Yield per Plant: |
- |
| Pruning or Plant Style: |
Perpetual Harvest |
| Fertilization: |
Chemically fed |
The plants were grown under a single air-cooled 1000w Hortilux in a 2' x 2' Ebb & Flow using GH nutes and Hydroton media.
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Grower Report: sticky scissors |
Thai-tanic from Flying Dutchmen |
| Overall Rating: |
7 |
Effect: |
Somewhat heady |
| Potency: |
9 |
Stature: |
Average size |
| Yield: |
8 |
Phenotype: |
Mixed, Indica / Sativa |
| Ease: |
7 |
Indoor: |
Varied maturation times |
| Appearance: |
8 |
Outdoor: |
- |
| Odor Level: |
2 |
Odor: |
Spicy, earthy. A friend says it reminds her of grandma's root cellar. |
| Taste Level: |
8 |
Taste: |
Woody, spicy, earthy. |
| Grower's Tils: |
8 |
Sexes: |
Slightly hermaphroditic |
| SI Rating: |
Not Listed |
Vintage: |
May, 2004 |
I found Thai-tanic to be a pleasant strain to grow.
The plants were all very consistent in appearance and fairly compact. The leaves were dark green and indica-like during veg, with defined ridging and edges. The bud leaves were more sativa-like. The branches were long, straight, strong and laden with dense, sticky buds.
The plants yielded well for the conditions, averaging 4 oz each. I thought that good considering that I had some overcrowding going on during much of their flowering period.
The buds were chunky, with a good leaf to bud ratio and good resin production.
I vegged the plants until they were 20-24 inches and limited them to 3 gal pots. They were left un-topped and finished between 3 and 4 feet.
Out of 6 seeds started, all sprouted and three were females.
Unbeknownst to me one of the girls decided to take a walk on the wild side later in flower and got herself pretty well seeded, although she didn't mess with the rest of the room. Apparently this is not an unknown characteristic with this strain so keep a vigilant eye out, even later on in flower.
I like the Thai-tanic stone. I find the high to be cerebral and uplifting, without the tightness of chest and anxiety I get from some other sativa-heavy crosses.
My girlfriend notes an additional effect on my libido & associated equipment. "They should have called it Thai-agra" she says, waggling her eyebrows.
The taste is very different from the skunky/fruity buds I typically grow/smoke. It's very spicy and earthy, with woody undertones.
I look forward to growing it again in the future.
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| Garden Information for this report |
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| Bloom Wattage Used: |
1100w to 2000w |
| Average Plant Height: |
72 |
| Average Yield per Plant: |
4.00 |
| Pruning or Plant Style: |
Perpetual Harvest |
| Fertilization: |
Organically fed |
These plants were cabinet-grown.
Veg cab - a 2' x 4' box, 7' high with a fixed 1000w air-cooled MH SolarMax bulb. Space cooled by A/C, lights on temps 66 to 84, lights off temps 55 to 65. 18/6 lighting throughout veg.
Grown in soil - Black Gold All Organic. Hand watered.
Began feeding after second set of proper leaves. Fed every other watering with Pure Blend Grow, alternating occasionally with Fox Farm Grow Big and an occasional dash of Superthrive. Found 1 tsp/gal to be a bit more than these girls wanted in veg.
Repotted twice, going to a 1 liter poly can and then 3 gallon, continuing to use the Black Gold. Taking a page from the Book of BOG I added 1 cup blood meal, 1 cup bone meal and 2 tbsp lime per cu ft bag of soil for the final repot after sexing via preflowers.
Total veg time was 64 days, preflowers started showing in the last two weeks.
Flower cab was 9' x 3' closet, 8' high, 2 1000w air-cooled HPS on light rail (SolarMax and Hortilux). Space cooled by A/C, lights on temps 66 to 86, lights off temps 55 to 65. 12/12 lighting throughout flower. As many as 16 plants in there at once.
Ferts every other watering during flower. Pure Blend Bloom alternated with Fox Farm Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. Again, found 1 tsp/gal to be more than they wanted.
Flowered for 78 days. I would have liked to let one go another few weeks to check out the difference but needed the space for something else. Next time...
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Grower Report: zedhe@d3 |
Thai-tanic from Flying Dutchmen |
| Overall Rating: |
7 |
Effect: |
Somewhat heady |
| Potency: |
7 |
Stature: |
Somewhat tall and lanky |
| Yield: |
8 |
Phenotype: |
Mixed, primarily Sativa |
| Ease: |
6 |
Indoor: |
75 to 80 days |
| Appearance: |
8 |
Outdoor: |
- |
| Odor Level: |
6 |
Odor: |
Ranging between fruity-aniseed-chocolate-pine |
| Taste Level: |
7 |
Taste: |
Ranging between fruity-aniseed-chocolate-pine |
| Grower's Tils: |
7 |
Sexes: |
Standard (M/F) |
| SI Rating: |
Not Listed |
Vintage: |
October, 2004 |
I lost most of my grow data when my old PC died but here my Strain Guide grow report for Thaitanic from The Flying Dutchmen.
I germinated 5 seeds by giving them a 24hr soak then planting into a sowing compost mix. All sprouted in a few days and looked healthy.
At the 3-4 week mark they had skunky phenos, wider leaves, short node space. I started feeding around week 3-4 using Bio-bizz Grow & Algamic (seaweed).
I put them into 12/12hr around 4-5 weeks, along with 5 indicas that were just cola on a stem and staked down (Indicas are the sweeping curved stems seen in the Thai & Indicas pic.)
The Thaitanics soon started stretching out and showing sex around 10days. 3 fem. and 2 males. Males were removed.
I staked and tied down the lanky branches on the girls but didn’t top them.
Over the first 6 weeks they flowered but didn’t gain much bud size but the plants gained in size overall and were very thirsty for Nitrogen with yellow leaves starting at the bottom of the plants. Of the three phenotypes, pheno's 1 & 3 were particularly N thirsty during flowering. I used Bio-bloom, algamic, Topmax as well as Bio-grow during bloom with nearly every watering except for the last week or so...
And LiquidGoldFulvic (DryFlowerProducts) at 1ml/Litre water 4 times over 11 weeks.. Not strictly organic, made from pine trees.
All the plants were chopped within 9 days of each other, around 11 weeks 12/12. Pheno 2 was first then pheno 1 and then pheno 3. I should have let all of them bloom a bit longer really but I had other plants that desperately needed the space.
1st pheno was sativa looking with quite bulky big airy buds, smells fruity & woody/pine with slight aniseed. Not really spicy. Quite a strong up buzz, slightly anxious feeling at times though not over-powering. Covered in orange/red hairs
2nd pheno also was quite sativa looking but quite bulky, skunky buds, smells very fruity, a bit bubblegum like. Skunky up type high, strong fruity taste.
3rd phenotype is similar to the first but took longer to mature in bloom. Hairs have more of a copper tinge on this one. Not as fruity smelling but a subtle aniseed with a touch of chocolate. This one has a more up, racy buzz, and speedy but not a heavy paranoia type, slight anxiety if smoked all day long but generally a happy feeling.
The yield is a bit lower on this pheno but I like it the most.
It could have done with another 2 weeks I recon. I didn’t check the trichs until after harvest and they were virtually all clear. I went by the colour of the pistils. Oh well, I have the mother plant so next time I will let her go for 13 weeks or more. :)
Large looking yields from all phenos, largest buds I have had in my grow cabinet. I didn’t weigh the complete harvests but the buds were much heavier than I thought.
The main colas on phenos 1&2 being around the 20g mark, pheno3 15g once cured.
I’m not sure but all phenos may have hermied a bit. Found a few seeds here and there and on phenos 1 and 3 found a male flower or two! I didn’t find this affected the sensi quality too much though. From a good few ounces iv only found about 8 seeds.
The 3rd pheno, my favourite to keep, is more like Thai. The smell of the 2nd pheno is gorgeous and the buzz nice, quite skunky so im keeping her for now too.
The pics of the cured bud are after smoking most of it and do not represent the total harvest.
Overall its a nice strain to try, it is an up active type buzz and quite strong too, though not as strong as I was expecting. Maybe by leaving the buds in bloom longer the strength will increase more by giving more "body" to the buzz?
I used Bio-Bizz all-mix soil that had been used one already and not really composted after. Was still ok with added liquid ferts.
Lighting at the time was two 150w HPS and 125w Envirolite* (Blue 6100K) in-between the 2 HPS bulbs. I’ve now replaced the blue Envirolite for a red 2700K.
*Giant sized compact fluorescent lamp.
I will grow clones from this strain again at some point, as it is a good smoke, not as powerful a Haze type sativa but an enjoyable experience. I’m trying to build up a good selection of mother plants and Thaitanic is welcome addition to the collection.
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| Garden Information for this report |
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| Bloom Wattage Used: |
- |
| Average Plant Height: |
36 |
| Average Yield per Plant: |
2.50 |
| Pruning or Plant Style: |
Perpetual Harvest |
| Fertilization: |
Organically fed |
Indoor Homemade Cabnets from Cardboard and wood:
Nutrients
Bio-Bizz soil & Ferts plus DryFlower LiquidGoldFulvic
BLOOM CABNET 12/12hr
120cmX70cmX1M high. Nearly 1m2 area.
2X 150w HPS & 125w 6100K(blue*) Envirolight (Giant low energy bulb)
*Since replaced with red spec lamp.
Total: 150+150+125=425w of mixed spectrum
Ventilation
OUT: 179m3/Hr Extractor & 2X 10cm PC fans 3cm from HPS bulb.
IN: 2X 90m3/Hr Bathroom extractors
CIRCULATION Constant: 2X 15cm Desk fans
VEG WALL CABNET 21hrs light/day
(seedlings,young1s&Mums&Dads) 1mX30cmX50cm high.
0.3m2 Area
70w MHalide & 4X 2ft 20w Grow Fluo's
Total: 128w Mixed spectrum
Ventilation
IN/CIRCULTION: 15cm Desk fan
OUT: 2X 10cm PC fan
Extra Temporary Circulation 24hrs: 15cm Desk fan
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Grower Report: blackmagicwoman |
Thai-tanic from Flying Dutchmen |
| Overall Rating: |
8 |
Effect: |
All in the head |
| Potency: |
9 |
Stature: |
Very tall and lanky |
| Yield: |
8 |
Phenotype: |
Sativa |
| Ease: |
8 |
Indoor: |
70 to 75 days |
| Appearance: |
7 |
Outdoor: |
- |
| Odor Level: |
8 |
Odor: |
earthy, exotic, complex sandalwoody |
| Taste Level: |
7 |
Taste: |
rich, sweet, slightly licource-like |
| Grower's Tils: |
8 |
Sexes: |
Slightly hermaphroditic |
| SI Rating: |
Not Listed |
Vintage: |
October, 2004 |
I decided to give this strain report after giving the plant a real long cure time. I noticed when testing it right after harvest that I felt it had not reached it's full potential. The high was pretty quick, and the taste was harsh, and so was the smoke. But after a few monthes cure, Tha-Tanic turned into my fav headstash as of yet.
Grow: This plant was slow in the vegatative stage, it was the last of my seedlings to pop the surface. the plants were small and seemed to grow much slower thena my Sweet Cindys. The didn't seem sensitive to nutes, they just ddin't seem to do much with them. I didn't notice much side braching wiht this plant/
Thaitanic really took off when I switched over to flowering, it easily tripled in height. This plant does not like to be overwatered, in fact it grows faster when allowed to dry out more than seems right (at least to a new grower). In flowering, make sure you are tying down this plant. Mine weren't tied down, but I ended up having to lay the branches down horizonally. I had about four branches that were essentially covered in buds from top to bottom. Unless you have 8ft of vertical space you won't be able to gorw it otherwise. These plants when hermie VERY late in flowere maybe the last week. I pulled off bananas when I saw them, and ended up with may 10 seeds in all of the buds I harvested.
Yeild: Since thaitanic responded really well to being "tied down" I ended up with about 12 ounces off of three plants. The nugs looked great when they were on the plant, but when they dried they were really light and "flat" looking. So not so much for bag appeal.
High: Like I said, this plant benefits from a long cure. I have been smoked thaitanic pretty exculively for a month or so and you do build a tolerance to it, but not too bad. Whne you first take a hit, you feel your head kind of tingle and then a slow burining near the back, like someone has turned on "the backburner" in your brain. As you pull a few more hits, you can feel yourself sailing away, not so much a "flying" feeling, but the feeling you get when you are on a boat and you are watching the water rush past the stern and you realize you are goign really fast, but feel it in your gut. The thing about thaitanic is that it will allow you to have your ultimate experience within any moment. It is a very emotional high, not at forceful, but can allow you to feel pwerful emotions depending on the situation you're in. LIke say you smoke a big joint and then head out to your fav restaurant, as you are walking to the restaurant you can suddenly feel the best moment you ever had walking down a street on a chilly night. I remembered walking down broadway in NYC on the way to a sushi place i loved, and you can smell the smell of that night, the diesel NYC smell, everything. It also allows you to hear things really deeply, and colors become more vibrant and liquid.
After getting "used" to the high, its not as racey, and I tend to come down after about 2-3 hours and want to sleep desperately. The next day you can still feel a little high.
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| Garden Information for this report |
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| Bloom Wattage Used: |
260w to 400w |
| Average Plant Height: |
- |
| Average Yield per Plant: |
4.00 |
| Pruning or Plant Style: |
Vertical |
| Fertilization: |
Mix of chemical and organic |
I grew in a c22 which is 6 ft high and 4 wide and only 1 1'2 feet deep. I grew using metro mix, a soil-less mix, with 10% perlite. I used Age old Oragncis grow throughout veg. I vegged or two monthes untila 400 watt MH. I flowered under a 400 watt HPS and used tiger bloom three tsps. per gallon once a week. The thaitanics took 73 days of flowering time.
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