The (fake) War On Drugs

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The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Jay Daga » 18.10.2004 13:18

Ok, something about war on drugs;, here is link to a page from where this text is from, there on this site there are some pictures concerning the text too, you can check them there;

http://www.atgpress.com/dtom/dt067.htm



Guilty Pleas and Trial Rates (1)
Fiscal Years 1998 - 2002

September 17, 2004

Hello, Folks;

It's time to explore yet another of the massive fiascoes and government follies perpetrated on the American public by those fools who people elect to office.

"THE WAR ON DRUGS"!

Yes, folks, for the last 30 years there has been an openly declared war on drugs. Every President since that buffoon Lyndon Johnson left office has declared that the federal government and the compact party states are in a war on drugs.

What exactly does that mean?

Well, I sure don't have a clue. Do you?

Where do we stand at this point?

From my somewhat limited vantage point I see the score thusly;

1. The so-called illegal drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, ecstasy, etc., are more plentiful than ever.
2. The so-called illegal drugs are cheaper than ever.
3. More people are using so-called illegal drugs than were doing so when the "WAR ON DRUGS' was first declared.
4. Untold billions of dollars have been spent on the domestic and foreign campaigns to eradicate so-called illegal drugs with little or no real long term effect.
5. This country has built more prisons and incarcerated more of its population than any other country in the world with no diminution of the illegal drug trade.
6. The statistics put out by the FBI and other agencies trumpeting their success in reducing crime are seriously flawed and based upon skewed sampling and calculations to make the law enforcement people look good, attract more funding from Congress and State legislatures, and distract the American people from the reality of the abysmal failure of these programs to have any meaningful positive impact on the overall drug trade.
7. There are more people involved in the transportation and sales of so-called illegal drugs than every before.
8. Jails and court systems are miserably backed up with tens of thousands of cases waiting to be tried, with no end in sight.

To point this out in solid form, and in a way that is not impeachable, I would refer you to the U.S. Sentencing Commission files.

They are replicated here with Source Notes

1 Data in this figure represent information from USSC's on-going data file; therefore, data points may vary from prior Sourcebooks. Description of variable used in this figure are provided in Appendix A.


Source: U.S. Sentencing Commission, 1998 - 2002, USSCFY98 - USSCFY02.



This clearly solidifies my arguments in earlier articles to the extent that no one should take a plea agreement. Think about it! If you look at figure C, and invert the statistics and keep in mind the 64,000 or so federal prosecutions lodged annually, coupled with the fact that all the county jails and prisons are horribly overcrowded, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion that having to deal with some 62,000 or so trials a year would soon collapse the federal justice system. It would implode within weeks, if not month.

Interesting thought, isn't it?

Lo and behold, through the entire time periods, legal prescription drugs necessary for combating sickness and disease in this country have become more and more expensive.

Ethical drug companies are reporting profits on a scale that would make the fabled Arabian Prince's fortune look like chump change.

Many Americans, and particularly our older retired population on fixed incomes, simply cannot afford the necessary life saving and life sustaining medications they need to maintain even a reasonable quality life style.

Through it all, your fearless leader, King George II and his cabinet and ever growing governmental behemoth is working diligently to keep you from getting the same drugs as sold in the U.S. from less expensive sources in Canada and Mexico.

Is there something wrong with picture folks? You damnbetcha!

Still want to run out, like lemmings, on November 2nd and vote for more of these self serving criminals in $1,200,00 Armani suits and give them the power to keep doing what has proven to be monumental failure in the "experiment in democracy"?

Are you too afraid to not vote? Try it! It's a beautiful experience.

Join the No Vote Party. Encourage everyone you know to join. Time is running out. Do it today!

God bless this great Republic!
Death to the New World Order!
We shall prevail!

D. Tom



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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Vieras » 22.10.2004 16:47

nice story... conspiracy theory

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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Jay Daga » 25.10.2004 12:05

homeG kirjoitti:nice story... conspiracy theory


theory, heh..

What is the käytäntö then. What happens in the real world? Which is more important? Theory or practice and what is the difference.
I think the truth is practice and what they really say about war on drugs is more like a theory... More easy to believe because the truth is so big and too close to reality for some to see.

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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Jay Daga » 27.10.2004 10:41

http://www.lycaeum.org/drugwar/

Look just this one site and think what you can read from there.
It´s not theory. Its history.
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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Jay Daga » 29.10.2004 12:35

And here is a link and text posted by IäinenOlema to finnish discussion-area... I feel this fits here quite well.. If some of you never read finnish-area.



http://www.davidicke.net/medicalarchive ... ooze1.html

Why is Alcohol Legal
and Marijuana Illegal?
by David Cable

In life, we are continuously surrounded by objects that can be harmful to our health. We are also simultaneously around substances that can be beneficial to our health. The question is—how do we know the difference? Is it through media, the government, or our peers? There is always so much hype about new foods and medicine that is supposedly healthy. Then some new evidence arises and…oops we were wrong. The only way to really know is through experience. People are so quick to make assumptions and believe almost anything they hear. For this reason, I will try to answer my own question—Why is alcohol legal and marijuana not?

The first area to be addressed is the drawbacks that alcohol carries. If I were a man of assumptions I would assume that since alcohol is legal and marijuana is not, then marijuana must be pretty dangerous. Only I don’t like to assume anything. I spent most of my life in the presence of both of these drugs (and more recently I have done quite a bit of research) and I have yet to hear of a single overdose incident from marijuana. As for alcohol…well, people get their stomach pumped everyday. In fact, about 50,000 reported cases of alcohol poisoning occur each year. It is estimated that one person dies every week from alcohol poisoning. Alcohol is a central nervous system (CNS) depressant. When alcohol is ingested, the first part of the brain that it affects is the frontal lobe—which controls our motor functions, planning, and reasoning. This is why people’s speech gets slurred, coordination is impaired, and bad decisions are made. About 10% of people who use alcohol have problems in their lives related to alcohol use. Around 90% of all assaults, 50% to 60% of all murders, and over 50% of the rapes and sexual assaults on children are alcohol-related. Alcoholics’ life expectancy is cut by an average of 10-12 years. According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health in 2002, an estimated 120 million Americans (12 or older) reported being current drinkers. That is just over half of the population. Also about 54 million Americans participated in binge drinking at least once in the 30 days prior to the survey. That comes out to 1 in 5 Americans over the age of 12. Over 33 million people (1 in 7) drove under the influence at least once in the 12 months prior to the survey. In 2001 more than 6 million children lived in a household where at least one of their parents abused or was dependent on alcohol. In 2002, an estimated 18.6 million people needed treatment for alcohol problems—2.2 million actually received treatment (13, 14).

Looking at all of these numbers, I can not help but to think of a lifetime of memories where alcohol was the source of infinite problems. Is alcohol the real gateway drug? Has America made the assumption that—it’s legal, so it can’t be that bad, or is it the classic-he did so I figured it would be ok? At the same time, alcohol does have some positive aspects, doesn’t it? It provides temporary relief of insomnia—even though there are over the counter and prescription drugs for that. It helps people with high blood pressure by thinning the blood. Wait a second; doesn’t aspirin do the same thing? There are also prescription drugs for high blood pressure. When you have a rough day it can help you forget your problems. Although, the next day you will remember your problems and maybe even have a few new ones accompanied with a headache from dehydration. Alcohol can help shy people be more sociable, but they might do something a little too sociable and be filled with regret the next day.

If all of this is true then why is alcohol still legal? The fact is—it is part of our culture, a way of celebration. America would still continue to drink if it was outlawed. It was made against the law and look what happened—it went underground. This is exactly where marijuana is today. In 2002, about 54% of young adults (18-25) and 21% of youths (12-17) had tried marijuana. In the month prior to the survey in 2002, about 14.6 million people smoked marijuana. Of that 14.6 million, 12.2% smoked on 300+ days out of the year. That is close to 3.1 million daily pot smokers. In 2001, there were an estimated 2.6 million new users. That number has nearly doubled in the last decade. So if this many people use it, why are we wasting our time trying to catch all of these “criminals”? Why not turn it into the capitalist-American way of life and legalize to make money and quit trying to stop the inevitable? “Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and grow it everywhere.”—George Washington. “The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add a useful plant to its culture.”—Thomas Jefferson. This makes me wonder even more: why is it illegal? Only history can answer this question (6, 13).

It all started in 1914 when a drunken white man was killed in El Paso, Texas by a drunk and stoned Mexican. So they put the blame on the marijuana—instead of the booze. Possession became illegal in El Paso because of this incident. Then came the real problem—prohibitionist-Harry J. Anslinger, the Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics. He believed that if the laws were tough enough, then America could do away with alcohol. If enough people went to jail, eventually the public would learn to behave. He then turned and applied this philosophy to begin America’s famous “war on drugs”. He quickly realized that it would be impossible to police 48 states with a “depression strapped budget”, so he lobbied for the states to pass the Uniform Narcotics Law. Here comes the propaganda. During the 20’s, marijuana caused “physical and mental ruin”. In the 30’s it was “if you smoke it you will kill people”. When they all finally signed, Anslinger was able to get Roosevelt to pass the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937—without public debate, scientific inquiry, or political objection. This prohibited the possession of marijuana in the United States without a special tax stamp from the treasury department. Only the treasury department never issued any stamps—oh and did I forget to mention that Anslinger’s position was in the treasury department. Then to make sure the public supported the law and to induce fear, the propaganda continued to pour. In the 40’s, the public service announcement was “marijuana: assassin of youth; causing violence, insanity, and murder” (6).

There were still hopes though. The mayor of New York, Fiorello La Guardia commissioned a six year, medical and sociological, study by 31 scientists which finished in 1944. They found that “marijuana did not lead to violent, antisocial behavior, or uncontrollable sexual urges. Smoking marijuana did not alter a person’s basic personality structure.” This commission “fully disproved every single negative effect ever claimed by Harry J. Anslinger”. He was furious. So he used his influence with the press to have the report discredited. He then destroyed every copy of the report that he could get a hold of. As if this wasn’t enough, he put a stop to any further research by restricting the supply of marijuana. Next, he ordered his men to dig up dirt on anyone who opposed him. His next target was the entertainment industry. In fear of trouble with the government, Hollywood studios agreed to give Anslinger personal control over all movie scripts that mention drugs. If he felt it was the wrong message, he just banned the movie (6).

During the late 40’s and 50’s the new scare was heroin. This opened the door for more propaganda—“if you smoke it you will become a heroin addict”. This enabled Anslinger to assist Senator Boggs in getting the Boggs Act of 1951 passed. This gave possession convictions mandatory sentences. Their slogan—“behind every narcotics peddler there was a communist preparing to over through our government.” How could they actually believe this? Well, because drugs are “primarily” coming from “red” China. If this wasn’t enough, Anslinger then persuaded Eisenhower to push the Narcotics Control Act through congress in 1956. This put marijuana in the same category as heroin. The sentence for a first conviction was a mandatory 2 to 10 years. With these stiff penalties, America needed more propaganda for justification. During the 60’s, it was—if you smoke it, you will not only “withdraw from reality, lose all motivation, and undermine national security,” but you will become a “dysfunctional loser” (6).

Of course, those penalties couldn’t hold for too long. During the 60’s, many people started thinking that the problem was not so much the marijuana but the marijuana laws. “The use of the criminal law causes more harm than the drug itself.”—Keith Stroup (founder of National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws). The cover of a 60’s Newsweek magazine read “Marijuana: Time to Change the Law?” This spawned the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, which eliminated mandatory minimum sentencing and effectively reduced penalties for possession of marijuana. Then the Ann Arbor (Michigan) City Ordinance of 1972 was passed making possession a minor offence equal to a parking ticket. A year later, Oregon became the first state to pass a decriminalization law. Four years after, a study was done that showed no increase in marijuana use and a substantial savings in tax dollars normally spent on law enforcement. By this time nine other states had decriminalized marijuana, but the war still had a long way to go (6).

The next tough soldier in the “war on drugs” was President Nixon. First, he launched “operation intercept”. Since it was off-time from war, he used the military to do what was officially called the largest search and seizure operation. He put people all along the Mexican border to stop the marijuana. After about three weeks of wasted time and money, the operation was abandoned. So Nixon poured the money into police drug training. At this time the propaganda was—if you smoke it “bad things will happen” (but we don’t know what they are). Nixon wanted to find out what these bad things were so he used millions of dollars to set up the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse. After strenuous testing the commission put out their first report. It concluded that “marijuana did not cause crime. Current laws against marijuana led to selective prosecution. The police were suspected of using these laws to arrest people with objectionable hairstyles, skin color, or politics. The enormous costs of trying to enforce laws against marijuana overwhelmingly outweighed any deterrent value of these laws. In conclusion, private use and possession should not be a criminal act.” Just to give you an idea of the “enormous costs” of the “war on drugs” mentioned above—

1937-1947=$220 million

1948-1963=$1.5 billion

1964-1969=$9 billion

1970-1977=$76 billion

1980-1998=$214.7 billion

This was the most comprehensive and highly publicized study of marijuana ever done. When Nixon got the feedback with the report, he became very angry and tossed the report in his wastebasket without ever reading it. Doing the exact opposite of what was recommended; Nixon formed the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). This combined all of the anti-drug agencies into one super agency. With over 4000 agents and analysts, the DEA had the authority to “request wire taps, enter private homes without knocking, and to gather intelligence on ordinary citizens” (6).

Things began to look up when Jimmy Carter took office. He was openly for decriminalization. He wanted to end federal criminal penalties for possession of up to one ounce of marijuana. Then a man named Peter Bourne (one of Carter’s appointments) got caught up in a cocaine scandal and ruined it. Carter could no longer afford to appear soft on drugs. His proposal to decriminalize just died in congress (6).

When Carter left office Ronald Reagan became the new general in the “war on drugs”. Since they had no real evidence of the dangers of marijuana, they had to take the broad approach. Recognize this—“This is your brain, this is your brain on drugs”. Reagan also pioneered the “just say no” campaign. Then when George Bush took office he wanted to take real action. “Drug trafficking should be grounds for the death penalty,”—George Bush. So along came about the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 and 1988. This allowed the seizure of property because of a threat to national security. They say like father, like son. When September 11 hit, it gave George W. Bush the chance to get more laws through congress. So all of a sudden, all of the drugs were coming from Afghanistan. The government has the right to put a bug in your home, car, and phone. The big change was that this evidence was now admissible in court. What ever happened to the right to privacy (6)?

I can’t understand why the government would push so hard for all of these years to keep it outlawed. Since Proposition 215 was passed in November of 1996, effectively legalizing medicinal marijuana in California—quite a bit of testing has gone on. Studies have found that if you had glaucoma, marijuana could lower your internal eye pressure and effectively slow the onset of blindness. AIDS patients get a lot of pain that can be eased by marijuana. It can also stimulate the appetites of people suffering malnutrition from AIDS “wasting syndrome”. Multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, and spinal cord injuries cause muscle spasticity and chronic pain that can be alleviated by marijuana. Cancer, anorexia, migraines, and even arthritis patients can all benefit from marijuana. It has been found successful over and over in helping stop nausea and vomiting. Recent reports from the National Institutes of Mental Health have stated that delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC-the chief psychoactive compound in marijuana) and cannabidiol (CBD-a non-psychoactive component) both appear to protect brain cells from the damage that often occurs during a stroke. When the blood supply is cut from the brain, THC and CBD act as antioxidants, protecting the brain cells from glutamate (a toxic brain chemical). This also indicates that marijuana can hold medicinal value for the treatment of brain injuries and diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s (4,8,12,16).

Anonymous “Patient No. 9” signed up to participate in marijuana testing about five years ago. He had already signed “do-not-resuscitate papers” expecting his death soon from AIDS. Fighting Pneumocystis pneumonia, Kaposi’s sarcoma, and internal parasites—his weight dropped from 240 to163 pounds. This experiment turned his life around. The pneumonia and parasites were cured. The sarcoma receded. His AIDS virus levels, “once sky-high, became undetectable in tests” (5).

“Doctors and patients should decide what medicines are best. Ten years ago, I nearly died from testicular cancer that spread to my lungs. Chemotherapy made me sick and nauseous. The standard drugs, like Marinol, didn’t help. Marijuana blocked the nausea. As a result, I was able to continue the chemotherapy treatments. Today I’ve beaten the cancer, and no longer smoke marijuana. I credit marijuana as part of the treatment that saved my life.”—James Canter (12).

If the government ended marijuana prohibition all sorts of doors would open. All of the $11 billion gross sales would generate some serious money from taxes. Sales taxes and excise taxes similar to the ones placed on tobacco and liquor would generate some serious income. Just a 6% tax on the consumers that spend $11 billion would produce $660 million every year. Also, we can’t forget about the money spent on the “war on drugs”. Every year the federal government spends an estimated $19.2 billion, and the states combined spend about $77.8 billion. “Conservatively speaking”, over 20% of that money is targeted towards marijuana. Suddenly all of the “criminals” and drug dealers would become agricultural workers, farmers, factory workers, sales people, and CEOs. All of the growers, runners, financers, distributors, collectors, lookouts, and consumers would not have to worry about getting caught. They would just be doing something they believe in (1).

In my opinion, it is unethical to have marijuana illegal especially when drugs like alcohol and cigarettes are legal. I feel that the illegality of marijuana is an extreme economic, cultural, and medical limitation to the advancement of our society. I feel that the evidence speaks for itself and that America should know the truth."
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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Kapina-Apina » 30.10.2004 19:45

One more related opinion, This time from Mr. Nice himself

War on Drugs -
it's a state of mind

(c) 27th Feb 2003 - indexonline.org

Comment by Howard Marks -

Laws for 'consenting adults in private' mean that prostitution, homosexuality and even suicide are no longer criminalised. The sole exception to this rule is the taking of recreational drugs. It is a prohibition maintained by 'The War on Drugs' - a war that not only fails in its objectives, but has unleashed an avalanche of criminality on the world.

Recreational drugs (substances consumed for purposes other than medical treatment or sustenance) can change one's feelings, thoughts, perceptions and behaviour: they can change one's state of mind. One's state of mind may be changed physically (hang-gliding or fasting), spiritually (talking to witch doctors or undergoing purification rituals) or psychologically (being hypnotised or psychoanalysed).Generally, the activity of changing states of minds is permitted, if not approved and encouraged, by the powers that be.

One hundred years ago, any respectable person could walk into a chemist in Britain and choose from a range of cannabis tinctures, hashish pastes, cocaine lozenges and opium extracts. He could immediately purchase morphine, heroin and a hypodermic syringe and could place an order for mescaline. But for the past 80 years, authority has not so approved.

Even though most people take recreational drugs (as they always have) the possession and trade of most recreational drugs (excepting, in some countries, alcohol and tobacco) have relatively recently been criminalised under a strategy of prohibition often referred to as the 'War on Drugs'. According to Rousseau's social contract, society emerges from an agreement between the citizens and an elected subgroup, the state.

In exchange for upholding their liberties by the rule of law, the citizens agree to empower the state by paying taxes. Insufficient law yields anarchy (American firearms laws). Excessive law yields tyranny (Iranian religious law). Western jurisdictions have sought the optimum by forbidding acts harmful to others but allowing those that are not, including any that are harmful only to oneself.

First applied officially by von Humboldt in 1810, it is known as 'consenting adults in private' legislation. Prostitution, homosexuality and even suicide are no longer crimes. The only exception is the taking of recreational drugs, prevented by the very costly 'War on Drugs'. We are asked to consider whether the 'War on Drugs' (a phrase coined by United States President Richard Nixon when he formed the United States Drug Enforcement Administration in 1972) provides a protection necessary for society's well-being.

Does it clearly reduce any harm caused by people's desire to take recreational drugs or is it simply a means of social control, be it benign (preventing the spread of disease, unemployment, dysfunctional and criminal behaviour) or more sinister (ensuring that ignorant and meddlesome outsiders such as ourselves don't interfere with the work of the serious people who run public affairs)?

I find it impossible to accept the view that protection against the taking of one's own life is less necessary than protection against the consumption of recreational drugs. If the so-called necessary protection mandated is merely misguided or overvalued, then authority could be forgiven for its imposition.

But since the War on Drugs was implemented, drug use has risen at an unprecedented pace.Two- thirds of all registered voters under the age of 25 take soft drugs and have access to harder drugs if they want them. Everyone who wants to take drugs is already taking drugs.

This clearly means the War on Drugs is not working, even from the prohibitionist's point of view. Apart from not achieving its aims, the War on Drugs also makes drugs artificially expensive and spawns an avalanche of acquisitive criminal behaviour. The illegal drug business has become so profitable that there are violent fights over territory in which to sell drugs.

Across the Middle East, South-East Asia, Africa and Latin America, civil war after civil war has been funded by the only strategy available to revolutionaries and counter-revolutionaries alike - the mass production of their traditional drugs for sale to the absurdly lucrative global market.

The War on Drugs drives out socially controlled, relatively safe drugs such as opium and coca, and promotes the consumption of adulterated concentrates such as heroin and cocaine. There are no controls in a black market, so some illegal drugs might be mixed with dangerous substances.

People dilute and adulterate illegal drugs to make more money. Black-market drugs are of variable strength, and can cause accidental and fatal overdoses. Black-market drugs are often administered dangerously because of inadequate education and resources, resulting in serious infections such as Aids or hepatitis B.

Some recreational drugs can definitely have adverse effects on health. The War on Drugs makes them more dangerous, and fails to reduce their use. The War on Drugs increases any harm that might be caused by recreational drug use. A recreational drug cannot by virtue of its chemical nature cause crime; it can only do so within a social context, which is the War on Drugs and the consequent black market.

The War on Drugs is therefore a root cause of crime, violence and ill health. The War on Drugs is not about benign social control but instead the abrogation of such social control, leading to unregulated peddling of adulterated substances outside the reach of the law. It would be difficult to construct a policy more physically dangerous, more individually criminalising or more socially destructive.

Accordingly, any social control accompanying the War on Drugs is probably motivated by the desire to keep the populace passive, apathetic and obedient and prevent them from interfering with privilege and power. One of the traditional and obvious ways of controlling people in society, whether it's a military dictatorship or a democracy, is to frighten them so that they'll accord authority to their superiors who claim they will protect them.

The War on Drugs creates fear of people from whom we have to protect ourselves. It also takes care of superfluous people who don't contribute to profit making and wealth (in the US, this tends to mean the poor and black): they're put in prison. The War on Drugs protects no one outside a small elite group, endangers everyone else and is a sinister means of social control.

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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Vieras » 31.10.2004 0:12

i wonder how many english-speaking ppl there is in this forum ´cause you are talking to each other, finns... :(

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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Jay Daga » 1.11.2004 12:21

amd kirjoitti:i wonder how many english-speaking ppl there is in this forum ´cause you are talking to each other, finns... :(


Yep... thought about that already, but whatsagonnaduu... keep on english talking tai niin..

Maybe some readers don´t understand finnish... and this is for them,.., at least this thread has 230 reads so who knows... at least people learn english..
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Re: The (fake) War On Drugs

ViestiKirjoittaja Vieras » 18.1.2005 17:48

Not to mention that copy/paste stuff from some hippie page or whutever conspriracy theory page might not make for interesting reading, atleast i skipped most of this.

on topic.
War on drugs, war on cancer, theres war on anything where there is profit to be made, it's the way this capitalist world (sadly) works. Take war on drugs, the concept was first put forward by Americans in the 1970's and it's still on.
This does not mean the people for drugs are winning, no.
Coz all the police forces in the world need to justify their government funding for the next year too.
I mean no dope, no jobs for these fuckers.
U dont see a war on pulverty or a war to give homes to homeless people, why?
Coz it does not pay.


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